The OOA book, “Out of Architecture: The Value of Architects Beyond Traditional Practice”, was featured in Architect Newspaper’s Holiday Book Gift Guide for 2022.

This is the second round with Erin Pellegrino and Jake Rudin, two Harvard graduates who have started a consulting company called Out of Architecture. Since last time we have talked they have now written also a book titled the same way. In this one hour conversation we have discussed how did they write, why did they write it and who is this for? Enjoy the conversation and you can watch here the round one!

Most architects can relate to the feeling of being plunged into a deep devotion toward architecture. What starts out as a dream career becomes a nightmare for many. After a rigorous education, the experience of a tumultuous career journey can dishearten professionals.

In this episode, we had the pleasure to have another two Harvard graduates, Jake Rudin and Erin Pellegrino. They are educated as architects, but soon in their careers, they have noticed a really dark side of the profession. Architects often end up doing non-creative work, they have lots of extra hours at work and they are often under-payed for the skills they have.

The two of them have figured out a way out of architecture.